By: The Deep
JMA: I think the fact that email originated with a rather closed cult of geeks has had a very negative effect on whether or not one can or should expect privacy with regard to the contents of...
View ArticleBy: Rufus Polson
I realize this may sound terribly naive, but it seems to me all the details are or should be almost irrelevant. The text of the Fourth Amendment reads “The right of the people to be secure in their...
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View ArticleBy: Daniel
I see this issue as moot in this case, although the precedent may pose a problem if the message were encrypted. This is for the same reason that a postcard is not subject to fourth amendment. With an...
View ArticleBy: tobiz
Glenn Logan: I think the court misunderstands that the fact it is possible to read en-route electronic mail means that it is sitting there in plain text for all to see.That is not true at all — one...
View ArticleBy: Alan Cleveland
Nice article. COnstitutional law is not my area of expertise, but why wouldn’t my 4th Amendment rights in such a situation extend to my agent, the ISP? Isn’t the ISP more akin to the mail truck? The...
View ArticleBy: Chicago Dave
I’m thinking along the same lines as Alan Cleveland: Isn’t the USPS (and UPS, FedEx, etc) a 3rd-party? Why aren’t my ISP and mail service afforded these same 3rd-party rights? ~Dave
View ArticleBy: A. Seth Miller
This is the best justification of universal acceptance and utilization of PGP/GPG encryption I have read to date. The use of encryption would, in my opinion, be prima facia evidence of the “reasonable...
View ArticleBy: Evil Business Plan, Part III: Uphold the 4th Amendment « One Last Bit
[...] 11th circuit court just decided that 4th amendment (thats unlawful search & seizure amendment) effectively doesn’t apply [...]
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[...] it normally takes for the e-mail to be delivered, and then run off copies of your messages. via The Volokh Conspiracy through All Things [...]
View ArticleBy: Court Effectively Says No 4th Amendment Protection To Copies Of Emails |...
[...] provides some new troubling views on this matter. Slashdot points us to Orin Kerr’s excellent analysis of a recent 11th Circuit decision, that basically says once an email is delivered, there’s...
View ArticleBy: Court Effectively Says No 4th Amendment Protection To Copies Of Emails
[...] provides some new troubling views on this matter. Slashdot points us to Orin Kerr’s excellent analysis of a recent 11th Circuit decision, that basically says once an email is delivered, there’s...
View ArticleBy: Peter
Wrong comparison. A better one is this: I send a mail via FedEx but FedEx contracts with USPS to deliver certain types of mail to certain locations using USPS. That should not change my rights. Howard...
View ArticleBy: No 4th Amdt Protection for Backups & Delivered Email in 11th Circuit «...
[...] March 17, 2010 Saira Nayak Leave a comment Go to comments From Professor Orin Kerr, a terrific blog and analysis of the Eleventh Circuit’s recent decision in Rehberg v. Paulk, which held that...
View ArticleBy: Roberts
The decision doesn’t specify — was this email from the mail queue that hadn’t been deleted yet, or mail _stored_, as on an IMAP server? On the first hand, it’d be analogous to raiding someone’s P.O....
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View ArticleBy: Scott Webber
Glenn Logan:Just like regular mail, email communications are packaged in an “envelope” that, while it is possible to read en-route, it is not really designed to be read en-route.The analogous...
View ArticleBy: Bruce
Scott Weber, I agree that this is a persuasive argument for encrypting your email. Even if there is no reasonable expectation that a copy of a cleartext email is private, the same standard wouldn’t...
View ArticleBy: J Jay
The problem with encryption are two fold. (1) as Orin’s Beard points out, it is the data that is subject to the 4th, not it’s format. see http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=927973 so...
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[...] Eleventh Circuit Decision Largely Eliminates Fourth Amendment Protection in E-Mail Last Thursday, the Eleventh Circuit handed down a Fourth Amendment case, Rehberg v. Paulk, that takes a very...
View ArticleBy: E-mails Aren’t Private? Oh-oh…« Ethics Alarms
[...] For an excellent scholarly dissent from the Eleventh Circuit’s ruling by Prof. Orrin Kerr, see his argument on the Volokh Conspiracy. [...]
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[...] Your legal options are just as bad. The legal protections we built against government power simply don’t apply to information you voluntarily give third parties. In the hands of a third party,...
View ArticleBy: seekertom
“The district court denied the motion to dismiss without really analyzing the Fourth Amendment claim, but the Eleventh Circuit ruled that obtaining Rehberg’s e-mails with a subpoena did not violate the...
View ArticleBy: tthor
Cool article, BUT: there seems to be a missing logic link. The thrust of your article seems to imply, but does not state, that you think there should be a WARRANT issued for the documents. [For the...
View ArticleBy: skimjim
“I found her diary underneath a tree and started reading about me.” I saw her email after I signed into an available public computer in the Library. So, should I be prosecuted? y/n []. Banned from...
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[...] when Arch Wireless took over delivery of the communication. The second argument is more of a Rehberg. v. Paulk argument: When the text messages arrived on Quon’s machine, the senders lost privacy...
View ArticleBy: Michael D. Houst
The judges in Rehberg v. Paulk (Judge Hull joined by Judges Carnes and Anderson) displayed abysmal incompetence in their ruling that 4th Amendment protections to not extend to electronic...
View ArticleBy: Trollicus
Under the DMCA breaking any encryption is illegal no mater how thinly or easily the content can be decrypted.. As the content is stored and transmitted under IP and Ethernet you may consider this a...
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View ArticleBy: Curious
How does this ruling affect David Kernell, the kid that hacked Palin’s email?
View ArticleBy: Mariscos
I dosen’t affect it in no way, the subject of it is about emails server’s, hacking do not play in this… for what i have understood. Or i am wrong?
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I thiink laws haven’t been updated for this kind of techhnologicl issue, so their purpose is not properly defined.
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